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Good idea, but take a look at the chicago thing. this is a war in chicago, a drug war between the bloods and the crips who have taken over the turf. in albany as in new york. in a war, you're going to have a lot of people killed. it goes on every day. they plan these things out. to suggest that somehow chicago is representative of the rest of the country when they have a drug war going on, and most of the killings in the black community are over drugs. a lot of people get hurt. that five-year-old kid, a good example of that. i am not sure that a president or anybody else will convince a hardco...

In miami that has performance enhancing drugs that are not -- they try to develop these so they can't get picked up by steroid screenings. eric, i was shocked today when i heard you say you were in favor of steroids in major league baseball. >> not exactly what i said. i didn't say i am in favor of steroids in major league baseball. i have been consistent on this. you may not like where i stand, but here is where i have been consistent. you're never going to be able to stop it. they're going to find the next one they can hide, you're going to question all of the record books. i feel in sports ...

Addressing i guess, i don't know, in more responsible manners. >> how about he takes the podium at the naacp and says look, if you don't like the laws, that's fine, we're here, elect officials, elect black officials that will change the laws, instead of trying to take clearly inciting event, the death of trayvon martin, terrible event, and adding stand your ground, which had nothing to do with it, almost blowing this thing up bigger than it ever needs to be, then saying something like this. elect people you trust that can change the laws to the way you like them. and denouncing the violence. >...

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State and other programs for children under 4, the idea it's revenue neutral, may not be realistic. do you have a sense, is public money going to be more money from the government going to be required to pull this off? >> well, i think there's some ways providing additional funding to be revenue neutral. you know, in terms of the amount of funding, we don't yet know and there are ways i believe of making sure that this does not add to the federal budget and saving funds elsewhere possible to invest in early childhood and as you were saying earlier, looking at a period to invest in, the first f...