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Gleeful juvenilia to tony that was appealing on some level, but a little bit tiresome after a while. there were stories that he went back to again and again. there were punching bags that he just could not resist. punching, again and again. but i think every one of us was willing to put up with them because one of the pleasures of watching the show over time and watching him over time was watching the punching bags transform into people, and watching those people turn into friends. one of the more fascinating aspects was the friendship with eric ripert. there was a feeling of inferiority. >> a...

There were stories that he went back to again and again. there were punching bags that he just could not resist. punching, again and again. but i think every one of us was willing to put up with them because one of the pleasures of watching the show over time and watching him over time was watching the punching bags transform into people, and watching those people turn into friends. one of the more fascinating aspects was the friendship with eric ripert. there was a feeling of inferiority. >> anthony: stop trying to suck up to the teacher. i saw that. apple polisher. you basically just rip you...