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Ann richards. the most empathetic democrat to run. it is blood red in texas. he has to turn out more democrats that typically turn out, and hope that they are turned off by ted cruz or donald trump or both. that is the only way it math works. >> every time i go back to the republican primary, it is fascinating to watch republicans be honest about the freakish awfulness that they see in this guy, donald trump. you watch person after person have this reaction. what kind of nutty liar am i up against? they have all eaten that, ted cruz, who has to beg the president to come to texas. >> when i was...

Become active in the republican party. >> i think that gun control advocates do have a little bit of a problem here where they say they're not against individual gun owners or the institution, but in effect they're making someone pay a little bit more for a car rental. this does get in the realm of where people feel like they're being bullied or demonized where they need to be persuaded. there are ten more democrats than that were republicans back in 2013 and the weapons ban failed by 20 votes. you're going to have to see movement among ten democrats and then get republicans. florida republica...

At the same time this pay for it math that politicians have made up does really hamper them. hang on. let ed respond and we'll come to you. >> the last time we had successful tax was when i was in the white house in the reagan days and we had bipartisan support and stimulated the economy and lord taxes for most americans and certainly stimulated the economy. at this point in time it's nice that -- the reality is what do you consider rich? someone making $100 to 150,000 rich? in parts of the country they are. how do you get small businesses that create oh jobs, how do you get an environment to ...

Both of them are possible. >> rove says it math does not add up? >> you have more proportional primaries this time than four years ago, so, for example, in georgia, if newt gingrich won georgia, or santorum, they will not sweep all the delegates and there will be proportional delegates for romney and the other candidates. so some of the folks like ron paul can get a number of the delegates without actually winning the states. >>guest: so, continuing to split the feel. from the beginning romney has had an enormous advantage of split opposition. the fact that conservatives have been unable to co...

Hundred pwplds in our government. >> greta: thank you. >> more of our interview will be posted at gretawire.com. president obama calls it math, but are the numbers adding up. buffet rules coming under fire who is really paying the higher tax rate? >> hillary clinton getting publicity from an unlikely source. >> why rush limbaugh is sounding like secretary clinton's cheerleader. [ beeping ]