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The economy, where's infrastructure now? instead, we have seen this clumsy refugee ban that has done nothing but hurt tourism and scare people. have a handedness in terms of the deportation of the undocumented immigrants. the health care, i don't blame president trump and i don't blame speaker ryan for the failure of the health care bill. what you have there was the knife being in the back, the trees in, the treachery of the freedom caucus, what is the freedom caucus, 40 or so congresspeople -- >> bill: you are talking policy and policy always has people disliking other people. this is persona...

The issue of the knife being in his hand or not is still an issue. but whether the knife is in his hand or not, there's an issue as to whether or not his aggression had stopped. that's the issue. did his aggression stop whereby officers should not have used that lethal force? >> that's the big question. clearly in that first video, he has his hands up and the officer shoots. playing on the other side of this what the officers would say is state of mind. we had reason to believe he was a threat based on how he lunged at them with this knife, the butt of the knife and hit one of the officers wit...

It's really unbelievable. >> sheriff clark, speak about the effect on police officers in charging that you falsely arrested somebody because you may have been wrong about a knife being a switchblade when maybe it wasn't but maybe it was. >> i've never seen anything like this. there are a lot of times officer make arrests based on probable caution and different standard than to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and take the case over to the prosecutor and oftentimes the prosecutor will say, yeah you know some stuff going on here but i don't have enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and i'm n...

It's really unbelievable. >> sheriff clark, speak about the effect on police officers in charging that you falsely arrested somebody because you may have been wrong about a knife being a switchblade when maybe it wasn't but maybe it was. >> i've never seen anything like this. there are a lot of times officer make arrests based on probable caution and different standard than to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and take the case over to the prosecutor and oftentimes the prosecutor will say, yeah you know some stuff going on here but i don't have enough to prove beyond a reasonable doubt and i'm n...

But having a knife being held to my throat, i was terrified. i had had grown up in a very happy home. and i really didn't know what the definition of fear was until that moment. that brought a whole new meaning. >> did he say he was -- what did he say in that moment? >> he said i have a knife at your neck, don't make a sound, get up and come with me. and then i remember getting up and going with him. and then on the way through my house, he bent over to my again and said if you make any sound, if you do anything that causes any attention or causes someone to come, i not only will kill you but ...