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That national security adviser. how unusual was that, phil, and what drove the first lady's office to bring that dispute public? >> well, the first lady, her and her team, rather have had a dispute for several months now with the deputy national security adviser. she's the number two to john bolton and has had a reputation inside the white house and the administration really as being a bit of a bureaucratic knife fighter on behalf of bolton. the first la dispute regarding arrangements for her trip to africa last month, specifically the seating arrangement on the plane and whether there would b...

Oval office. he is -- >> he is so powerful, so smart. he knows the inside game. he's a knife fighter, frankly, and the person who would be most isolated by this, in addition to pompeo who agrees with him more ideologically on north korea and iran, for instance, but not on the lack of need for diplomacy. the person most isolated by this i think is jim mattis. i think this is an enormous challenge for the defense secretary who has a good relationship, a singular role in this national security team because of the respect the president has for him but now he's really isolated. >> andrea, it's e's ...

He's always been in a lot of trouble. what do you think about terry? >> i think he is going to be a rough and tumble guy. he's a knife fighter. he understands the system as well as anybody. because it's part of clintonista regime there is a little bit of clinton fatigue in the democratic party. if he wins the nomination and it's white male versus white male i think the president beats him. but he's an effective guy. i don't want to sell him short. i don't care who is up against him, he'll never sell the person short. he'll always treat himself as the underdog. you are in altoona, p.a. and it's...

He's always been in a lot of trouble. what do you think about terry? >> i think he is going to be a rough and tumble guy. he's a knife fighter. he understands the system as well as anybody. because it's part of clintonista regime there is a little bit of clinton fatigue in the democratic party. if he wins the nomination and it's white male versus white male i think the president beats him. but he's an effective guy. i don't want to sell him short. i don't care who is up against him, he'll never sell the person short. he'll always treat himself as the underdog. you are in altoona, p.a. and it's...

He's always been in a lot of trouble. what do you think about terry? >> i think he is going to be a rough and tumble guy. he's a knife fighter. he understands the system as well as anybody. because it's part of clintonista regime there is a little bit of clinton fatigue in the democratic party. if he wins the nomination and it's white male versus white male i think the president beats him. but he's an effective guy. i don't want to sell him short. i don't care who is up against him, he'll never sell the person short. he'll always treat himself as the underdog. you are in altoona, p.a. and it's...