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It could also be something as simple as failure to, you know, fill out a security form properly or lying to investigators. we will have to wait and see what these charges are and who it is against on monday. arthel: absolutely. at this point, it is just speculation. we will do it here for the sake of this segment. who might be targeted, melanie, in this first indictment and depending on who, might they flip and where might the dominoes fall? >> right. i know two of the cases that are considered most advanced and farthest along are that of paul manafort and michael flynn as well. with manafort ...

Reach for the gun. >> seems to me the public is okay with it. they believe it flakes th-- mak them safer. >> when i worked at the kato institute in all of the raids they always killed the dog. when i would talk about the raids the actual people get killed the response is always like that's awful. they were probably doing something wrong or police wouldn't have been there. you mentioned the people get really angry about that and tend to illicit a visceral response. guess they think the pets are innocent and all. >> you have questions? >> my name is anthony ray beck i go to university of pennsyl...

>> appears the public they believe this makes them safer. you say it is -- >> i was researching this and found in all of the raids they always killed the dog. an interesting thing when i go out and talk about the raids when actual people were getting killed the responses sort of like that is awful but they probably were are doing something wrong or the police wouldn't have been there. and then you mention that the dog gets killed and people get really angry with that. >> do the students have questions? >> i'm a student at the university of pennsylvania. i was wondering if you you could tell us...