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Positions away. you mean spies, i ask? yes, he responds, moammar gadhafi's people, who are watching us, listening to our communications and telling them where we are so they can hit us. the new tactic is to hold ground and move forward, with caution. an approach that makes sense. but goes against the grain of boys and men who want to do it their way. ben wedeman, cnn, outside al brega. in cairo, fans riot and a soccer stadium is damaged. now egypt's prime minister is apologizing to the people of tunisia. it happened in the closing minutes of a qualifying game against tunisia. fans of the eve...

Line newspaper this case. we have the coalition. basically we -- we've got egypt we are trying to stabilize there. obviously in terms of where it is, in terms of egypt, tunisia. this when you add it up case by case basis, it made sense to do the north star thing, if you will. i don't think there is an actual black and white answer. i think what we look for in the media is absolutes. i think we live in a world now of grayness. i think he made the right decision in this instance and i think it is a case by case basis. i don't think we can sit here and put on paper and put in a nice grid when you...

Politically to get this done. it cannot -- >> i think what we are seeing now -- guys, go back to egypt. we heard obama, oh, my god, standing on the sidelines. the end justified the means. we are seeing what i call practical leadership now. we are not -- we are not the united states when you were with nixon where you can come in, kick ass around the world. it has to be tempered. that's the reality where we sit in the world now. i think a calculated tempered response was the only response. for you to sago and take him out and say to the europeans go in and fix it, say to the egyptians, fix it --...

Small deed democracy, have you another thought coming, my friend. >> okay. let's move on to david ignatius. really respected writer here on these issues. from "the washington post," obama gave a good libya speech but soon he needs to deliver a cairo speech that will articulate a coherent strategy for the region. history is on the move from morocco to iran. yes, in afghanistan and pakistan, too. if obama can connect his policy with the way that transformed tunisia and egypt he will solve the core riddle of his presidency. charles, is that correct? >> i think that's correct. i think that this pu...

>> if gadhafi stands off the u.s. navy and air force know the rest of it and survives, the question is if -- if gadhafi stays, does obama go, quite frankly? that will be an issue in 2012. if he is taking us to war against libya, that guy is sitting there in tripoli defining the -- defying the united states. >> the other thing about that, the american public -- i don't believe have the stomach to go any distance on libya at all. i mean, one part of what the president was saying was, you know, you don't want to wait to get the images. that's also part of their problem which is that there are no ...