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Mike allen, mike, we started with you. i was just talking about since 2006, republicans have grimaced and hidden in the corners and they've -- oh, what are we going to do about -- these people on talk radio, these people on cable news that are saying these things that are driving off the very swing voters we need to get elected to the white house again. >> yeah. >> guts. they don't have guts to speak out against the treex emmists. mitt romney never had the guts to speak out against the most extreme elements in his party. and he lost in part because he followed extremists down a rabbit hole in ...

No chance rand paul wins a general election in this country. >> why not? >> he's angry and people don't want angry. >> you're talking more style. >> hey -- >> you have a guy in chris christie who is -- the most left leaning state in massachusetts there is who basically will get 70% of the vote the next time around. he is a candidate just right of center with the right attitude that wins national elections. >> michael steele, understanding that we are 18 years away from this election. >> thank you. >> i do have to say, though, maybe rand paul grows as a candidate, but i do think it's style over...

Housewives across america. >> this is true, joe, but i'm just trying to get to the point that conservatives going into 2016 have to answer the question that you've already begun to answer, who is that true conservative in the crop of guys and gals who show up and they didn't do it in last -- in '12 and will they do it in '16? >> i think they will. >> rand paul, chris christie, will all be battling for that. >> i think other people will jump in. governors out there, a lot of other people, remember barack obama at this point wasn't even on the list. this hasn't begun. donny deutsch hasn't stripp...

Has time to -- >> this is very, very early, but his strategy has not worked. ted cruz, obviously, at the bottom. everybody talking about ted cruz. who wouldn't love to have ted cruz's mailing list right now. >> right. >> don't win general elections. >> and michele bachmann did this. >> right. >> before and herman cain did this. they all had their sort of explosions in the springs and then they collapsed. >> here's something for you, joe, and michael steele. chris mathews his prediction for the gop nomination, he made last night on "hardball." take a look. >> obama won in 2008 over hillary clin...

Were redrawn. and they don't even have any incentive to gout and broaden the base of the party, because those aren't the people who are in their backyards. in some way, they're shooting themselves in the foot. >> absolutely. >> because these aren't people who could run for statewide office or senate or governor. they're very much trapped in their own congressional districts. >> now joe, the republicans have ground law making to the halt because the 113th congress has signed just 22 bills. >> yeah. >> that's on track to be the slowest pace in modern history. and even fox news anchors are grilli...