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To make his case. if we thought the mueller investigation was over with -- with robert mueller's announcement that he was stepping down and closing up shop, that is not the case. the mueller investigation is going to be open for some time both by democrats who want to explore more thoroughly what they found and also apparently by the attorney general who is looking back at the origins of investigation. this story is not nearly over yet. >> elliott, when barr says that mueller could have reached a decision on wrong doing, that in looking at the same case he could not help viewers through this, ...

Are echoing throughout congress. this was not the case when the report was committed. so mueller i imagine as the behest of the left gives them what they need to jump-start the calls for impeachment. but nothing has changed in the report. the only thing that changed is mueller decide something create chaos and havoc, as if two years investigating the president show no obstruction or collusion are not enough. but that's what mueller did. muddy up the waters and charge up the left. >> that investigation if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime we would have said...

This was not the case when the report was committed. so mueller i imagine as the behest of the left gives them what they need to jump-start the calls for impeachment. but nothing has changed in the report. the only thing that changed is mueller decide something create chaos and havoc, as if two years investigating the president show no obstruction or collusion are not enough. but that's what mueller did. muddy up the waters and charge up the left. >> that investigation if we had had confidence that the president clearly did not commit a crime we would have said so. judge jeanine: they never sa...

Rosenstein and i felt it was necessary for us as the heads of the department to reach that decision. >> is he right? >> well, he told us when he gave the hearing in front of congress that it was his baby now and reminded everyone that mueller worked for him. certainly, yes, he could -- maybe he could have reached a conclusion but he would have been violating the essence of that policy and the olc policy said which is not to indict a sitting president. now mueller made clear that you could investigate a sitting president. you can absolutely do that. but his hands were tied by that olc opinion. ...

Ramification, let's bring in bret baeir. i know one of the most important things when you're a journalist covering a story like this, if there's daylight or a discrepancy between two principles and in this case, as catherine pointed out, and i saw your first reaction was, barr said this, now mueller is saying this. are you hearing anything else about this in washington? >> the department of justice is saying that it was clear that mueller and his team told them and told attorney general barr in this meeting on march 5th that the olc, office of legal counsel, was not but for that, he would have...