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Back and work for the company. i kept turning him down. finally, he called me and said, son, my health is not good. i don't have that long to live. either you come back to run the company or i'm going to have to sell it. and we have a separate company called koch engineering, which makes process equipment. and it has sales of like $2 million and it is break even. it's a mess. you can come back and run it and i'll let you run it any way you want. the only thing you need to get my permission for is to sell it. and i said, hey, this sounds better. >> i'm actually going to run it. >> i came back. ...

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We don't want that. >> what does the inability to admit mistakes tell you? >> they don't have humility or probably integrity. that's impossible. if you try to do anything, you make mistakes. that's how you learn. >> don't you want all the hot shot mbas from harvard and elsewhere? >> we find we do better from community colleges, rural colleges. like our, after i was president of koch industries, our next presidents were -- one didn't graduate from college. went a couple of years to, let's see, murray stating ary culture college. went for a couple years. another from texas a&m. another one unive...

Boston trying to get me to come back and work for the company. i kept turning him down. finally, he called me and said, son, my health is not good. i don't have that long to live. either you come back to run the company or i'm going to have to sell it. and we have a separate company called koch engineering, which makes process equipment. and it has sales of like $2 million and it is break even. it's a mess. you can come back and run it and i'll let you run it any way you want. the only thing you need to get my permission for is to sell it. and i said, hey, this sounds better. >> i'm actually g...

We don't want that. >> what does the inability to admit mistakes tell you? >> they don't have humility or probably integrity. that's impossible. if you try to do anything, you make mistakes. that's how you learn. >> don't you want all the hot shot mbas from harvard and elsewhere? >> we find we do better from community colleges, rural colleges. like our, after i was president of koch industries, our next presidents were -- one didn't graduate from college. went a couple of years to, let's see, murray stating ary culture college. went for a couple years. another from texas a&m. another one unive...