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There's no question in my view the purpose of the formation of that entity was to further shield that payment by scrutiny by not having michael cohen or donald trump's name on it. secondly, the bank account that was set up for the routing of this money, this $130,000 was set up in the name of essential consultants llc. an in connection with that -- and i think i raised this some time ago on your show. we talked about potential charges that could be brought against michael cohen, depending on his financial activity or the activity that occurred at the bank. and i think i referenced on your show...

Going to the same account that is being used to do hush agreements. >> we don't know if they knew or did not know. here is what we know for certain, essential consultants was formed. there is no question in my view that the purpose of the formation of that entity was to further shield that payment from scrutiny by not having michael cohen's name directly on it or donald trump. there is no question of that in my view. second, the bank account that was set up for the routing of the number was set up in the name of essential consultants llc and i raised this sometime on your show, potential charg...