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By the way, getting away -- it's a question of what comes. i think he knew he would be caught. so what? after obama failed to inform the red line in syria, i predicted putin could go further. i thought he would do other things, hurt american interests worldwide, but even i didn't expect he would go that far. for putin, it was a matter of not just prestige but survival. remember when obama called russia a power. that's a big mistake. putin believed at that point for him to show his strength inside russia and also worldwide, he had to do something to undermine american political -- >> the phrase...

Lab rov, blame of interference. that's a clear message. now i have to say putin looks victorious. whether trump benefited or not, putin looks like a man who could actually crack into american political system. that sends chilling message to america about friends and emboldens american enemies. >> the new trump administration, what would your advice be to the trump administration on how to respond to putin? >> i think trump should stop denying this report and dismissing cia. cia reports could be confirmed by other intelligence agencies, blaming russia, not china, not iran, russia squarely for i...