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National identity and return ukraine to the russian fold and he's doing it with horrendous war crimes along the way. i do think genocide fits given the definition you so correctly and completely laid out. >> do you think then the administration should come out and call it that? >> i think so. certainly the president has gone beyond that and has said -- excuse me, the president has not gone beyond that to say genocide, but the president has been very clear and raised quite a fuss around the world when he said putin must go. putin cannot continue to lead the russian federation. that in its own w...

Forces in ukraine. i think this clearly is genocide. >> you heard her come out and say this is genocide. but jake sullivan wouldn't say it. labeling doesn't matter. why stop short of calling this genocide? the administration has been forthright in calling what we're seeing war crimes, calling putin a war criminal. >> he's clearly a war criminal. that new general is clearly a war criminal. in my view, it is genocide. president putin has said many times, he's written as well as said, that ukraine doesn't exist. he is taking action to do that, to make ukraine not exist, to wipe ukraine off the ma...

And should the administration be more forceful and call it that? >> clearly, what we're seeing right now are war crimes being committed. this unjust invasion that vladimir putin has carried out against ukrainian people is horrific. the news reports, the clearly, the attacks on civilians, it looks like executions in the streets against the innocent civilians, all these things, in my mind, have the average person add up to war crimes and appears on its face to be genocide. and i am sure the administration, because of their legal nuances and investigations that have to take place to get all your ...

Here again, other european countries certainly there are hold-ups at the border whether it's doctors, to do the medical check-ups, need to get more medical professionals there, to make sure we clear those hurdles that people can come in here, strengthening, certainly, tps, the temporary protective status is something else we can work to expand upon. doing everything we can to just find out what the bureaucratic hurdles are and make it happen so we can get the ukrainian people out of harms way to safety. >> i'm curious, why you'd think the administration isn't coming out and calling this a geno...