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Wall up they are going to fly over, go on a ship or drive across a bridge and a wall is not going to stop them. we have got to do enforcement. also, so we have to look at a comprehensive border. >> tucker: i don't think anyone is suggesting a wall is a panacea. doesn't solve every problem you have. this is my point. this has been going on for generations. we don't actually know how many people are here illegally. somebody says 10 to 12. 50. we can only guess. congress has done nothing about it a lot of people believe it's because employers don't want congress to do anything about it because th...

Rebuilding our party, and building up a bench, and having a 50-state strategy. and speaking to the issues that concern people most. and that is their sense that their national government no longer works for them. no longer understands their hard work and their suffering and that they're not getting ahead. and that's where we trailed off. i don't know. we have to take some time to figure out how much of this was messenger, how much of this was message, how much of this was a lack of organization, at the grassroots. and that's what we're in the process of doing as a party. >> well, hillary clint...

Wonderful vice president. if he gets in the race, it will be a race. he has credibility. he's run twice for president. he has labor support. he has progressive support. yeah, he would be a major player. he would be a strong contestant. i think hillary clinton, in the end, because of her strength with minorities, with women, progressive elements, outside of iowa and new hampshire, in the long run, her name id, she will prevail. we got lucky. thank you for being with us, governor, always a pleasure. >> thank you, chris. >> all right. michaela. president obama's approval rating is taking a hit ...

Looking to an alternative as hillary clinton as the front-runner. >> sure. gray hippies and young hipsteres some are describing them as, chanting "feel the burn." 185,000. talk about the significance of that and how that gives him more credibility or does it take away from his outsider image? >> well, he certainly is looking for union support. he got that yesterday with national nurses united. teachers association last month, hillary clinton received labor support. obviously when you're looking for a base democratic voters you're looking for that union support. he netted that yesterday. that's...

Who -- alleged sexual harassment by the mayor who was not mayor at the time. eight years ago, it is -- is this new or something that's followed him? these accusations, whispers for years? >> we have always heard rumors. they were just rumors. this past two weeks have been surreal because so many women have now come forward. again, we heard these things in the past. we tried digging into these things. it is -- just recently, it is a -- has all emerge. >> have you quite a number of people coming forward. it is almost like the dam that has broken here. why now? why the timing of this? >> i think ...