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Money has been wasted. >> yeah, the shanty towns that exist throughout brazil what they're pointing to in terms of what they want to improve. qatar has issues to deal with itself. imported hundreds of thousands of workers to build the stadium, workers come from nepal, south asia, other countries. the western of human trafficking, of modern day slavery? >> i don't think the description of the labor system, what they call the labor system in qatar, as slavery is an exaggeration. that's an apt description, not an understatement but apt description, certainly. the way the system works is, when you...

New government program. but what we're talking about today with my brother's keeper is a more focused effort. an boys and young men of color are who having a particularly tough time. >> president obama made a claim for the need to specifically target boy who is tr the focus of the program by recognizing the especially daunting realities of their lives. >> as a black student you are far less likely than a white student to be able to read proficiently by the time you are in fourth grade. by the time you reach high school, you're far more likely to have been suspended or expelled. there's a highe...

Z." you were actively involved in the struggle against apartheid. can you talk a little bit about the nature of the apartheid government. i think it seems remote. people don't quite realize what a comprehensively awful regime this was. >> see, a lot of americans compared south africa to the u.s. and thought in terms -- >> jim crow. >> the civil rights movement, where people's rights were being violated. in south africa, there was no constitution and there were no rights. so apartheid was really a labor system, a way of controlling black workers to the benefit of the people who owned the mine a...

Violated. in south africa, there was no constitution and there were no rights. so apartheid was really a labor system, a way of controlling black workers to the benefit of the people who owned the mines and the resources of that country. and so the whole system regulated people's lives, almost in every dimension, where they could live, where they could work, and they couldn't violate those rules. they couldn't be in the city after dark. they couldn't, you know, work in certain areas. it was a tightly regulated, really a fascist, to use a word that we don't use much anymore. it's that kind of a...

Have proven to be good alt something, and there has to be more competition to be in the elite? >> we have a system of tremendous competition now. some of the problems we have, the jamie dimons of the world are a perfect example, but we have a terrible combination of, it's kind of like the bailouts, they were the worst parts of socialism and the worst part of capitali capitalism, we have the worst part of this ceaseless competition and don't have accountability at the top. think about the fact that we have seen more baseball players before juries for lying about steroid use, than we have seen m...