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Plane. what else do you know? >> well, jake, we just saw that wonderful report from the tom foreman and it would just suggest that perhaps whatever happened it happened so quickly, that there was no time for that distress call. we can be also tell that you both the faa and the united nations organization that coordinates international aviation entities, they put out a warning to airliners saying there was an unsafe situation along the border of ukraine and russia within this air space. but we now nope today that the area where this crash happened was outside of the area in which these two agen...

Ukraine, of course, blaming pro-russian separatists claiming they shot this plane out of the sky. let's bring in senior international correspondent nick paton walsh. what did he tell you? >> they say they've been to the site. they have now left the site had. they say they have left militants to take control of the area and remove journalists from it saying it was totally open for anyone to walk around. they say there are now consultations, negotiations he said happening between the separatists and what they refer to as the consultation contact group. that's a number of pro-ukrainian officials,...

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Us about this tragedy? >> of course, it's an extremely tragic case and i would like to express once more my condolences of anyone who were involved. we intercepted a number of phone calls between the terrorists talking about shutting down the plane now. and another proof on the terrorist activity and as a result of that, the mane has been shut down and as you know, in the recent days, we had extremely development and two ukrainian military planes have been shot down. as we believe also from the russian -- from the russian territory. and now, we have boeing 777 shot

This incident in ukraine. although we have no shortage of big stories to talk about worldwide. is there evidence that the united states government finds credible that pro-russian separatists shot down this plane? >> the answer from the united states government perspective is no. they're saying they don't have conclusive evidence yet from the ukrainian government perspective, i've been speaking to officials there, they say they have evidence. i'll give you what they give. one is that they believe that it was a russian buk so-called buk system used to shoot down this plane in part because separa...