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Ammunition. the supplies are necessarily going to decrease. this is an inevitability. the problem that comes is you look across all the nato nations. they are increasing their support. they have a challenge. nato requirements and they have a decrease in supplies. across the board everybody is feeling the pain. >> obviously, it's deeply concerning. we are hearing from ukrainian military sources, they're saying putin is increasing the number of cruz missile carriers in the black sea to three. they have iranian supply coming online. that would be, you know, really tripling their launch capacity f...

Sell them. do you want to buy them? i'm afraid whether it's the technology, whether it's the scientific know how, or whether it's the launch capacity that what they're doing is advertising. so it's not only that they would have it, but that it could sell it and that proliferation would be a danger -- is a danger to the whole world. they must be stopped. i like to think we would exhaust every diplomatic remedy. because we're dealing -- we're poking a stick in the eye of mad dog. >> so presumably every possible diplomatic opportunity would include president trump sitting down with vladimir putin...

Me is we talked to them about stopping their missile production. they said we just make them to sell them. you want to buy them? we'll sell them to you. i'm concerned about kim as a prolifera proliferator. this is his dog and pony show showing people i have the technology, i have the scientific no how. i have the launch capacity. you want to buy some from me. that makes the world an even more dangerous place. in addition to his tests which are harmful to the environment. so he's a bad actor. the president is so far, president of the united states shouldn't be engaged in that kind of tit-for-ta...

After strength with a new incoming president coming to washington. >> you see it as a real threat and are they also racheting up their technical know how each other? >> yeah i think the fact that the testing has been so frequent, the tempo has been so strong shows this program is designed to improve different technical thresholds in order to be able to have a nuclear icbm that can reach the united states whether that is the launch capacity. whether it's solid fuel prop propelent. these are all thresholds they need to cross and they need the testing in order to do that and that's what we have b...

Research, power we provide on our side of the station. they could survive. on the other hand we couldn't survive without the russian part. both nations need each other. i don't think it's going to come to blows over the space station itself but we have to move smartly by elevating spending on replacing launch capacity. >> what do you make of the fact there's a statement from the internal memo saying they hope they will be launching back here at home in 2017. in what capacity in not the space shuttle, right? >> no. these will be commercial trans ports. three competitors, boeing, nevada, spacex,...