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Deputy attorney general rosenstein for making sure that happened, they had to have thought that it would strengthen his hand going into the negotiations. if the plan was not executed well, that is another matter. but that actually must have been a calculation they made. but i do think, shannon, that this reminds me a lot about the debates that we had in the 1990s about whether terrorism, especially attacks by an international terrorist organization against the united states overseas, whether terrorism was actually a law enforcement problem, whether a great nation, when it's attacked by a forei...

Indictment come out before the meeting and i applaud rosenstein for making sure that happens, they had to have thought it would strengthen his hand going into the negotiation. if the plan wasn't executed well, that is another matter but that actually must have been a calculation that they made. i do think this reminds me a lot about the debates we had in the 1990s about whether terrorism, especially attacks by an international terrorist organization against the united states overseas whether terrorism was a law enforcement problem, whether a great nation when it is attacked by a foreign hostil...

Specifically with respect to dividing kids from their parents. and that is very different and the president does have it totally within his power to reverse it we can talk about other legislative proposals when it comes to immigration. we can and we should. >> dana: i do want to ask one last question of you, sir. that is the root cause of this is not always being talked about in terms of how do we deal with that that is the drug cartels that have figured out a way to make a lot of money as a side business by human trafficking and i know that's not the case for all of the people that are coming...

Streamline or cut short the due process that we have in the immigration courts, what little of it that there is now, we have an administration that is extremist in its antiimmigrant views that really looks at this as a law enforcement problem, border security problem, when, in fact, this is a humanitarian problem. these are children. my gosh, these are children coming from horrific violence, and they have the absolute rights. these folks who have come in these so-called caravan, they have the absolute right to request asylum and as you point out, the next step would be whether they get asylum ...

Mistakes that new york state made in this war on drugs, where they disproportionately managed to penalize and imprison african-americans, inner city people who were drug dealers for a number of reasons, but letting off the suburban users. >> that's so right, andrea. it's not a law enforcement problem. it's a supply problem. but president trump doesn't want to go after the drug dealers and the drug companies that are flooding the market with these pills. and studies have shown that the problem is where the pills are. and you're going to make a lot of money sending them to small pharmacies in we...