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Illegally, huge number of families, unaccompanied children, many are claiming asylum, that is not a victimless crime. they are paying smugglers, putting border patrol officers at risk. what the president is trying to do is take away asylum after illegal entry and force them to go through lawful process. >> the number of people claiming asylum, what is percentage end up being bona fide victims, bona fide that the claims are actually true? >> right, that is one of the core elements of the challenge we're facing, the asylum gap. the gap in people that make fear claim who are found almost 85 to 90...

Of u.s. history. >> well, it's a point we look forward to debating. in 1960 the average immigrant had about the same education and skill level of an american citizen. today immigrants have four times -- they are four times less likely to even have a high school diploma. now with all of our welfare benefits the arithmetic for immigration is totally different than it was before. so immigration has helped to build our country, but it's been a selective, lawful process. to come in and give amnesty to lower skilled, less educated workers is going to cost our country $6.3 trillion. we already have 1...