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To whether there is a threat reduction, whether there is a risk reduction, and whether those changes, in particular at these smaller airports, will be filled by alternatives or whether we're just going to leave a gap. so, that i think is the sort of pressing question right now, is, is this just tsa just saying, look, we need to save money, we're cutting across the board, or is this actually in response to, one would hope, changes in the risk assessment or the threat assessment. and right now we can't answer that question. >> all right. i think a lot of people are sitting home and thinking, wai...

But you can get close enough outside to do something like this. from a police practice, from a security standpoint, if there's somebody washing this show from california, do we do things differently here than they would in manchester england? >> not very differently. england has sort of counter terrorism and response capacity. you actually saw that last night in the works. they knew how to respond. you see that through most of these european countries that have had terrorist attack. but you just raised the ultimate point which is how do we make these areas safer? and i think safer is the right...

To get the risk to zero. but through layer defenses you can try to minimize the risk. but we can't bring the transportation systems to a halt because you put a security layer so strong up against it. >> bob, i want to turn now to talk about these two suspects in the paris attacks still on the loose, salah abdelsalam and mohamed abrini. what does it say to you about whether they're getting some sort of help here? do you think there's any way that they can remain on the run here without getting some sort of assistance? >> look, the problem is that these people obviously have a network. you can't...