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But he's only up to 1964, not yet to vietnam. which is why, when he took a detour to write "working," it caused -- well, heart burn. >> i want people to have some idea of what it is the i do, how it is to research this type of book. chris: caro fans may not be happy he took time from finishing the story of lbj, but it is fascinating to learn how he goes about his master work. caro says he learned about research from the his editor at newsday back in the '60s. >> this guy looks up at me, and he says, just remember, turn every page. never assume anything. turn every page. chris: it's advice he's...

Johnson, the legislative master. he understood the senate. he understood how to get something through congress the way john f. kennedy didn't. then i hear the fact he was a southerner. that he had been friend with the segregationists and he had credibility with segregationists through his years in texas. sort of like only nixon can go to china thing. i wonder how much truth to lbj taking over in '63, there wouldn't be a civil rights act in '64? >> the assassination, that shocked the country so deeply, and gave, as robert carrow says in his latest lbj book, it gave impetus to the johnson admini...