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Republican base they are rallying more and more around them. it is a problem with moderate voters and progressivet voers. but inhis base is going to stand behind him. >> that's why they released the mueller questions was to rally the base and help justify the president in saying i'm not going to sit for an interview. >> ty cobb, if you didn't know you were being hung out to try rudy held the towel up on that front. is this going to enwell with the president with rudy giuliani here. or will rudy not survive as his lead attorney? >> is he his lead attorney now? seriously. >> it is my understandi...

At the white house of anybody he has been doing. >> this is a mess. >> a lead attorney leads somebody. who is he leading. >> at this point, jay sekulow and emmet flood. the married couple from miami as well. he does seem to have -- >> do they know one another? >> well, that is definitely an open question there. all right. when we come back, i want to look more at the new political strategy, what rudy giuliani did last night. you know, he didn't just get the president in more legal trouble. he just started shooting a of the a lot of people. we will get the best of that in a few minutes. do yo...

Perhaps the most perilous moment in this probe, he's missing a lead attorney. john dowd, who is the lead attorney, basically recently resigned because of some of these disagreements including over this issue of if the president should talk to mueller. the white house has not been able to bring on another attorney, another topnotch attorney, but even any other attorney. no matter what the president decides to do, the key thing is he needs a lead lawyer and he needs a very clear, coherent legal strategy right now, neither of which he has. that just heightens the already existing anxiety surround...

In this probe, he's missing a lead attorney. john dowd, who is the lead attorney, basically recently resigned because of some of these disagreements including over this issue of if the president should talk to mueller. the white house has not been able to bring on another attorney, another topnotch attorney as you were referencing, but even any other attorney. no matter what the president decides to do, the key thing is he needs a lead lawyer and he needs a very clear, coherent legal strategy right now, neither of which he has. that just heightens the already existing anxiety surrounding this ...

There is this debate within his legal team on if he should sit for an interview or if he should not. but that's sort of obscures the fact that right now as the president is heading into perhaps the most perilous moment in this probe, he's missing a lead attorney. john dowd, who is the lead attorney, basically recently resigned because of some of these disagreements including over this issue of if the president should talk to mueller. the white house has not been able to bring on another attorney, another topnotch attorney, but even any other attorney. no matter what the president decides to do...