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I think this is more just about sort of trying to get everyone blae basically in line. she gets why they would vote for or against these things. >> is there any indication if message was received from the moderate lane? >> i mean, i'm sure they have heard it. i would tell you alexandria ocasio-cortez saying i would put you on a list and give the list to people who want to primary you guys. that would go over like a lead balloon among moderate members. that is her brand. we need to embrace being liberals. i don't think it will change behavior because we are talking about people many of whom bea...

Dead end street. >> and to be clear, you're referring to mr. berman, who has the job you used to have. he recused from part of this, which is why we've seen kazami step up and take part of the trump probes. what trump is trying to do in the accounts of the "new york times" is trying to get berman back in charge. you're saying even if trump was successful at that, you don't think he would bend to trump's will? >> no, i think it would float like a lead balloon. i really trust that if he had made that approach, it would have come out and it would have been handled appropriately and effectively. >...

Pointed -- it's worth noting as mr. brennan did earlier that he also, while he said he didn't know much about the collusion issues he did talk -- he did remind us that he's speaking with prosecutors in the manhattan southern district. so there's more to come potentially. >> that fell like a lead balloon in the middle of the hearing several times, i noted. >> kim, you may have already shared this with your listeners on wbui. you can share it with our audience. and that is where do you see the story going next? >> yeah. it's tough to see. look, while this was really dramatic today, we heard the ...

Clearly went over like the proverbial lead balloon in the room. and you can see there what we couldn't see in the room, the close-up of his face as he sort of absorbs the fact there will be no applause so he just moves on with the rest of his address. but it was -- it really notable in the room. i will note the next day when he addressed the conference proper, there was a large contingent of members of congress there putting a lot of republicans who applauded as if to make up for the lack of applause the night before. >> do you think that this white house is operating under the belief -- becau...

Halt. >> just two months later, whitaker was named chief of staff to then a.g. jeff sessions. later taking on the job of acting a.g. when sessions was fired by the president. speaking to an audience of one just like he did today on capitol hill. this is whitaker trying to act cute when chairman jerry nadler wanted to know if he'd been asked to approve any of mueller's actions. here it is. >> now, in your capacity as acting attorney general, have you ever been asked to approve any request or action to be taken by the special counsel? >> mr. chairman, i see that your five minutes is up, and so -...