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Just elicited a lot of emotions for me, because it did remind me of stories they had shared with me being locked in the house. there was something i'm not specific with the chains, kind of reminiscent where when i heard that, i just kind of shuddered. he played a lot of mind games with her and i believe with my ex-husband as well. of course, their stories were shared with me after the fact. they had separated from ariel castro at that time. but even still, it was just very horrendous, the stories like i said, after she had had surgery, brain surgery, and he still, she recollected to me how he ...

Women. >> yeah. in fact, i think that's another reason hearing about everything just elicited a lot of emotions for me, because it did remind me of stories they had shared with me being locked in the house. there was something i'm not specific with the chains, kind of reminiscent where when i heard that, i just kind of shuddered. he played a lot of mind games with her and i believe with my ex-husband as well. of course, their stories were shared with me after the fact. they had separated from ariel castro at that time. but even still, it was just very horrendous, the stories like i said, after...

In fact, i think that's another reason hearing about everything just elicited a lot of emotions for me, because it did remind me of stories they had shared with me being locked in the house. there was something i'm not specific with the chains, kind of reminiscent where when i heard that, i just kind of shuddered. he played a lot of mind games with her and i believe with my ex-husband as well. of course, their stories were shared with me after the fact. they had separated from ariel castro at that time. but even still, it was just very horrendous, the stories like i said, after she had had sur...

Decided to create a diversionary tactic to get his attention away for a split second. what can you tell me about that? >> like i said, i can't go over our tactics or anything like that. i apologize. you know, let's face it, in the times we are in we may have to call on these services again at some point in time. martha: what about his background, jimmy lee dykes. there have been reports -- we talked to one woman who said she beat her dog to death with a lead pipe. another man said he was brought up on menacing charges. he would not let anyone come near his property. he was allowed to build his...

Authorities state is suspect jimmy lee dykes continues to make the boy as comfortable as possible. police have said nothing about a motive or any demands. however, residents say that dykes has strong antigovernment views and would threaten any one who came close to his property are. one neighbor says dykes beat to death her 15-year-old dog max with a lead pipe. listen to her. >> he actually brought like a deer stand and put it up over his fence. and wasn't even maybe 20-yards from us and climbed up it. he sat on it with a rifle across his lap and watched us. >> the standoff has been going on s...