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Hands -- >> brian: she wants this issue to go away. >> gretchen: or do people come back to the point that four americans were murdered in benefiting, libya? does anyone by the way, still care about that? >> steve: we all do. but a poll came out yesterday that said regarding libya, it was bad fort administration. they had botched the response and the lead-up and the whole works. meanwhile, john bolton, who was our union i wouldn't know ambassador to -- united nations ambassador, he said what he's seen so far, this is not good. >> i'll just put it this way based on my own experience in governmen...

Better testify this week. his number two is now going to talk about the lead-up and what happened in terms of benghazi. but do you think he'll eventually have to testify? how much pressure do you think there is coming from capitol hill? >> i think there will be quite a bit of pressure. but it's not like his deputy isn't reading the same files that he is. i think they'll get just as informative a briefing from his deputy as you would from petraeus. but there will be pressure from capitol hill, definitely, going forward. we'll have to see what happens. hate to say it. there are a lot of question...

That clinton, secretary clinton and others at the state department have said is that we were telling the american people exactly what the intelligence assessments were at the time in which we were telling them that. obviously every step along the way, every day you learn more about what was happening, you peel back the layers of intelligence without getting too detailed. and you learn more about both the lead-up and the exit to that event. >> hey, chuck todd, let's talk about female voters. robert was just talking about a 22-point lead the president had in ohio. but there actually was a pew po...

special guest at graduation. president obama will give the commencement speech. the nato conference in chicago ground zero for diplomacy and protests. a fierce confrontation yesterday between protesters and police left dozens of people injured on both sides. today more demonstrations are planned. our ted rowlands has been basically in the thick of all of that. protesters, ted, vowing to shut down, i understand, boeing's chicago headquarters today. what is happening now? is it fairly peaceful here? have they managed to shut down anything? >> they're just finishing a march, suzanne, ...

murderer they believe to be someone who is on the run and won't be showing up today. they haven't gotten any cooperation from his family. that judge will decide if, that judge will decide what to do with those pardoned, so there is that likelihood that they could be taken back into custody if these pardoned are somehow overruled. >> you mentioned the attorney general. explain to me the argument here on behalf of the a.g. to overturn the governor -- the pardons -- why he would want to overturn them. forgive me. >> no problem. what the a.g. is going to argue, he says according to missi...