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Effort to take the election to donald trump? >> number one, they didn't solicit the meeting. >> they agree to and in fact donald trump said i love it and he agreed to the meeting on the 25th floor of trump tower. >> if you would've materialized is not a thing of value. there's never a case that opposition research as a thing of value. i've talked about that as well. i think chris, i don't think it's appropriate to inflate. the exact transaction as it was laid out in the e-mail was not a solicitation by the trump campaign to get information. it was opposition research. compared to doubt what to...

Work with the russians and ronald reagan. anybody working with the research. that's what it shows. that's why all americans are recognizing the hostel for not there at the investigation in the country deserves to see what comes out of the investigation. they need to go on and they are look forward to the results. >> i'm not going to play dr. emanuel. i'm going to call you see. we are going to talk in specifics. are you willing to see the country paralyzed for the next year? if more information comes out to see the president, how far do we need to go on this? >> democracy is at stake in

Vermont -- for months, donald trump and his team have tried to build links between the election behind us. that is now much tougher with a stream of revelations about a meeting donald trump junior and other campaign officials held with russian operatives last summer expecting to get damaging information about hillary clinton. how does this affect the credibility of the trump white house? what does it mean for at least four investigations into possible collusion. joining me now is jay secula, president of the legal team. since the story first broke about possible links between the trump campaig...

Opposition resource, it's not true. people have standards that are rules of engagement and getting a foreign government to give you information is something the american political system has not permitted. that notion is wrong. chris: let me just pick up on that one point. i think it's fair to say you've been generally supportive of president. doesn't this set of e-mails and hearing the people in the meeting, don junior, jared kushner, campaign chairman paul manafort and the russian lawyer, doesn't the e-mail exchange on the fact that those three trump officials showed up at a meeting show at ...

>> a look, here's what happened. nothing happened and there's no exchange of information. and in a bad self, the relevancy of the differential whether it was a russian lawyer or whether individuals they knew, in fact is what to place during that meeting come even on the basis that the e-mail says donald trump laid them out would not violations of the statute. when you talked about russian collusion, colluding to do what? chris: well, let's talk about the legality of the meeting. the u.s. code bars a former national from giving money or quote, seeing the value in connection with the election en...