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Because when you're coming in at that speed. it's actually your tail doing most of the steering for you. obviously having a tweaked, a sideways front wheel isn't going to help you, but the air rushing past your tail is really what's going to keep that plane lined up down the runway at those speeds. >> megyn: and so what he was saying is what your you were saying. trying to keep the belly, the nose of the plane up just to kill the speed and then, how fast will the plane be going when they try to touch the nose down? >> i just, i'm taking it from the helicopter pilot. i don't fly an lear jet, bu...

The population when you're talking about a landing gear problem as opposed to something that might happen to the plane in flight? >> no, what they're going to do, they're going to get on a very long final, they might be having 30 mile straight in final to the airport. air traffic control is going to clear the area, clear the traffic because they're going to get the airplane priority handling and get on their speed and configured almost for like a normal landing and they have two main gear, as long as they touchdown and everything holds fine they'll go ahead and lower the nose gear and what the...

Having the co-pilot doing the circle and that's crm, cockpit resource management they call it, one person assigns a role to each of the crew members and that's what they'll work from. >> megyn: i don't want to give people a false sense of security or fear as we watch this. dj is a commercial airline pilot and feels confident and said repeatedly they're probably going to be okay. we hope that's what happens. and you feel the same? and given your expertise in the area. >> we may see the nose gear collapse which would be frightening, but again, even if it collapses generally you'll stay pretty mu...

>> megyn: all right. >> let me tell you something, here is the president's big s thing. they repassed the budget control act. and what's the excuse for the president to be on the road campaigning when he hasn't submitted a budget to congress? there's three things that the president needs to do with that budget. how much we are he going to spend and how much revenue we're coming into and how much the deficit is going to be increased. he hasn't done any of that. how are we supposed to move on to self-inflicted wounds, continuing resolution that the president as a matter of law failed to do his j...

Something happens and you tweak at that plane one way or the other the pilot has a little more room to work. >> megyn: we're going to listen to the chopper pilot again. >> even close to lambert at this stage of the game and we may or may not have success with that. we want to let you know that. if you see the helicopter turn circles here, you'll understand why. but in terms of just manpower, yes, there would easily be, i'm sure four or five times the amount of equipment at lambert than there would be. and although when you're talking about a small jet, a private lear jet, still a jet, but nowh...