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Tweaked in a different direction than is normal. this landing gear on this air force plane all appears to be in fine working order. but again, the signals are, this guy is going by, retracting landing gear, dropping it and then coming by again. and, but the helicopter pilot said he thinks there's also another plane out there, that could be burning off fuel, getting ready for its landing, and that this air force plane may have been up there as kind of a reconnaissance plane to take a look at the lear jet with eight people on board. very fluid and clear and want today throw that into the mix and...

Miles, ohio to st. louis depending where in ohio they were wouldn't probably be much more than that, you don't want to actually generally take off with a full load of fuel because then you're burning a lot of fuel to lift that extra weight. so, he might have taken off with, say, half filled fuel. >> megyn: didn't go very far if they're coming from worcester, ohio. >> that's right. and it's a variable, every flight is different. >> megyn: we assume if engaging in burning off fuel they have the game plan. they've spoken with the mechanics and perhaps a pilot and advising them and giving his or h...

>> megyn: unbelievable. so the pilot, who you've been listening to, is talking about how the plane has landed. at least according to him. and that he says this is according to ktvi, and the helicopter, that the airplane landed i guess you could say without incident, other than the dangers and distress call. and that's what we're told this moment by ktvi, that the aircraft has landed safely and now is on the ground and see the spot shadow on it so you can get a better look although it's tough to see and now we're trying to confirm this is in fact the plane because we've had conflicting informat...

If they can decelerate naturally by letting the friction bleed off the momentum. >> megyn: let's listen in again. we've got it now, but obviously, we're, you know, we're probably three miles from where they are and so, that's-- this is what kind of shot we get at three miles, you can tell what's there. it does not appear to be that there is any fire of any kind, so, at this point i'm sure that they're just trying to get out of the aircraft and heir day. meanwhile, the airport is still running, you can see the southwest jet there and they will go to another runway and taxi by and before long th...

The president did roll up his sleeves and invite as a matter of course every week, president george w. bush met with the leadership of both the house and senate, his party and opposition. the reason why he did it, you must stay engaged. if the president wants to sell policy, the best way to do it is to work on that policy in washington and not go out. >> megyn: is that true that president bush met with-- >> i controlled his calendar, and one thing that the president was very engaged in is meeting with not only his own leadership, but the opposition. he had to do it. it's not something that p...