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Managers, and that and that bureaucracy, the donors and friends. other than that, shut up and obey. that's the program and maybe it will succeed and maybe it will remove the president. okay, what then? washington will celebrate, of course. what they have learned anything from the exercise, will the 2016 elections have changed their minds or the priorities at all in any way? or they continue to convince themselves this is some weird operation run by russia and racism in the heartland. something that they could safely ignore and return to a kind of arrangement that looks very much like 1978, for...

Bureaucracy, the donors and friends. other than that, shut up and obey. that's the program and maybe it will succeed and maybe it will remove the president. okay, what then? washington will celebrate, of course. will they have learned anything from the exercise, will the 2016 elections have changed their minds or the priorities at all in any way? or do they continue to convince themselves this is some weird operation run by russia and racism in the heartland. something that they could safely ignore and return to a kind of arrangement that looks very much like 1978, for that matter. we know the...

Was pressuring his ukrainian counterpart to deliver political dirt, and that was the only way they were going to get military aid and a white house meeting. the other thing that i think is really going to hurt republicans is people like alexander vindman and also fiona hill pretty sharply pushing back on allegations of ukrainian corruption. i mean, when we look ad hill's testimony yesterday, at the transcript, we saw her say, you know, i'm not going to be part of this essentially misinformation campaign that republicans are putting out. and so, i think that's something that if republicans want...

Why not? well, he is a narcissist, of course. and all of this is sort of a defensive strategy for the narcissist. he doesn't really think all these things inside. he tries to convince himself of them, but let's remember. it's worth remembering, i think, he didn't really want to be president, and he didn't prepare to be president. it was all a big infomercial for him, and now it's kind of a reality show. he's obsessed with ratings and things like that, but he doesn't actually engage with the idea of being the president of the united states. not interested in learning anything in particular. and...

And republicans yell at each other, stay in their own camps and no one is convince and more and more people come out every day for impeachment. we saw this morning a close ally of nancy pelosi, and mckows ski being a republican in a somewhat swing district last cycle come out for impeachment inquiries. so the number is growing and these hearings are not lending anymore clarity to the situation. >> jake, any of the republicans interested there in learning anything from the experts that are being interviewed today? was that sound that we just played from congressman collins pretty much a taste o...