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Of feedback loop where the brain creates mind, and then the mind can exert power on the brain and physically change the structure of the brain. >> larry: can a poor learning brain have a good mind? >> poor learning brain have a good mind? probably. >> thomas edison did terrible in school. >> yeah. >> got beaten in school. and obviously we would say he had an amazing mind. >> larry: so how do we separate them? let's say on obesity. >> the mind/body duel is probably something that goes way back. how do we deal with something like obesity. where we've been -- listen, millions of millions of years...

Creates mind and then the mind can exert power on the brain and physically exert structure on the brain. >> can a poor learning brain have a good mind? >> thomas edison did terrible in school, got beaten in school, and we would say he had an amazing mind. >> larry: how do we separate them, let's say on obesity. >> the mind-body dualism goes too far back. millions and millions of years went into our brain development and we develop in such a way to maybe live maybe to the age of 20 that will increase our probability of surviving, things that we crave and are deeply rewarded in our brain system....