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Bannon made previously where he called collusion with russia about this president a total farce. so i think i would look back at that. >> michael wolf also writes about steve bannon's relationship with jared kushner. quote, bannon did all he could to rollover priebus and kushner in an effort to prosecute the war for trumpism, bannonism. kushner on one of the steepest learning curves in the history of politics and also exhibiting a painfully naivety was advocating doing nothing fast and everything in moderation. and wolf also describes how bannon viewed trump as he campaigned for the white hous...

The men you talked about. jimmy carter came up as a navy man, trained under the admiral affectionately called father of the nuclear navy. >> right. >> ronald reagan was a hollywood man, governor of california. they both the learning curves when arriving at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. has there been a learning curve like the one we are seeing now though? >> nothing as sharp as this because we never in american history have had a president who had not served in high political office or in the military. so it's even more incumbent on donald trump, i think, to say, you know i'm not going to do somet...

Reelected but hostages might have been killed. when carter did that that was so much in line with what carter had been saying and doing, that people weren't surprised. i think the thing that strikesly about what happened last night was that donald trump on syria only a few days ago was almost 180 degrees from what he did last night. and i think this is jarring to us, whatever you think of what he did last night, jarring in foreign capitals around the world. >> look at the backgrounds of the men you talked about. jimmy carter came up as a navy man, trained under the admiral affectionately calle...

About? meetings kislyak. all these meetings with flynn covered up. if there was nothing wrong with the meeting, why did they deny them. jonathan, you haven't said anything. >> i just had an outburse. [ overlapping speakers ] >> if the white house driving, not doing a good job driving the narrative, they are like the democrats' best friend. they started with the tweet, and then they keep digging deeper and deeper. you talked about the first 100 days of the clinton administration. i was a white house reporter during that. tell me what bill clinton's numbers were after his first 100 days and you ...

Them. >> let me ask you about learning curves. all the different points of view here, you're allowed to have them. what have you seen of a learning curve from trump? where has he shown week by week to pick up on people to trust, ways of doing things? you're getting quiet on me, jonathan. i don't see it either. you want to give me some learning curve? >> 18 months ago, people thought this guy is a joke. quick study, he's president of the united states. my thing is this. i think the last few weeks, he let somebody else drive his agenda. i think he's going to learn from that and realize he has to...