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Fighting this darkness inside my soul, our soul. it's like we went to war with it and we cut the tree down. it's to protect me. i got two circular rocks there to protect me from negative energy, negative spirits. for both of you, that was your first sundance? yeah. i know some folks talk about the spirituality. did you find that too? like i say, it was my first time, so it was a new experience for me. mine came afterwards. when i was there it was kind ofjust like learning how- they're doing everything - and how the ceremony went. afterwards, reflecting| on it was kind of more the learning part...

It's to protect me. i got two circular rocks there to protect me from negative energy, negative spirits. for both of you, that was your first sundance? yeah. i know some folks talk about the spirituality. did you find that too? like i say, it was my first time, so it was a new experience for me. mine came afterwards. when i was there it was kind ofjust like learning how- they're doing everything - and how the ceremony went. afterwards, reflectingj on it was kind of more the learning part of it, - just looking back and thinking about what everything meant and being able to be - a part of that. ...

For both of you, that was your first sundance? yeah. i know some folks talk about the spirituality. did you find that too? like i say, it was my first time, so it was a new experience for me. mine came afterwards. when i was there it was kind ofjust like learning how they're _ doing everything and how the ceremony went. - afterwards, reflecting| on it was kind of more the learning part of it, - just looking back and thinking about what everything meant - and being able to be a part of that. yeah, it was pretty special. when you get them sober and you say, "re—examine "who you are, and identi...

Time, so it was a new experience for me. mine came afterwards. when i was there it was kind ofjust like learning how- they're doing everything - and how the ceremony went. afterwards, reflecting| on it was kind of more the learning part of it, - just looking back and thinking about what everything meant and being able to be - a part of that. yeah, it was pretty special. when you get them sober and you say, "re—examine "who you are, and identify who you are by where you come "from, your lineage, your roots," we find when they do that, they find that strength. that's, i think, the stark differ...

When i was there it was kind ofjust like learning how they're _ doing everything and how the ceremony went. - afterwards, reflecting| on it was kind of more the learning part of it, - just looking back and thinking about what everything meant - and being able to be a part of that. yeah, it was pretty special. when you get them sober, and you say re—examine who you are, and identify who you are by where you come from, your lineage, your roots. we find when they do that, they find the strength. that's the stark difference between what other treatment might do, non—indian treatment facilities...