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It has to be falsifiable. you have to be able to disprove your learning process, and if you can't, if it's guaranteed by the government, it prohibits learning, and thus stifles economic growth. mark: and what is -- i've never quite understood, we have this debate about net neutrality. sounds counterintuitive to me. what is net neutrality? >> a scheme of price controls for the internet. you know, the only thing that really matters with regard to whether all the various bits and bites are treated equally across the internet is how much bandwidth there is. if there's a lot of investment in bandwi...

It has to be falsifiable. you have to be able to disprove your learning process, and if you can't, if it's guaranteed by the government, it prohibits learning, and thus stifles economic growth. mark: and what is -- i've never quite understood, we have this debate about net neutrality. sounds counterintuitive to me. what is net neutrality? >> a scheme of price controls for the internet. you know, the only thing that really matters with regard to whether all the various bits and bites are treated equally across the internet is how much bandwidth there is. if there's a lot of investment in bandwi...

Do you think most people -- forget about the elites, do you think most people still believe that? >> i hope so. polls indicate that young people are increasingly estranged from capitalism. i think largely because of a great government effort to guarantee futures through the student loan program. $1.5 trillion of guaranteed money for students. those aren't really loans. loans require a bank to scrutinize the borrower and it's an intelligent learning process in capitalism. this is guaranteed money for the university system, and the university system took the money and ran. students ended up payi...

Do you think most people -- forget about the elites, do you think most people still believe that? >> i hope so. polls indicate that young people are increasingly estranged from capitalism. i think largely because of a great government effort to guarantee futures through the student loan program. $1.5 trillion of guaranteed money for students. those aren't really loans. loans require a bank to scrutinize the borrower and it's an intelligent learning process in capitalism. this is guaranteed money for the university system, and the university system took the money and ran. students ended up payi...

>> there's a real sweetness to steve and vulnerability. >> "feminist baby" loves to dance. "feminist baby" chooses what to wear. if you don't like it, she doesn't care. >> so far, i've really only seen him in masculine mode. so, with his son tucked in, steve has agreed to introduce me to his other side. a very flattering dress on you. >> thank you. >> how do you feel? >> good. i feel vulnerable to be doing this in front of a camera but i feel good. >> it's really brave. >> thank you. i am still very much in the learning process around this. >> being gender fluid, steve