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Himself was the subject of a counterintelligence investigation. the president has gone to serious lengths to conceal his discussions with an enemy foreign leader and his panicky tweeting and subsequent interview on fox news -- >> we need to play that. >> -- it says the president clearly has something to hide and the president fears president vladimir putin for reasons that can only suggest the existence of compromising information. tom, you don't have to explain the led zeplin thing again. >> thank god. >> yeah, thank god. all signs point to the same way, vladimir putin has compromises

Analyst nick confessore and joining the conversation, professor at the u.s. naval war college and author of "the death of expertise" tom nichols is with us. and political analyst for msnbc and nbc news philip rucker and form are u.s. attorney for the northern district of alabama and an msnbc contributor joyce vance. good to have you all with us. >> let me say, mika, that answer from donald trump made about as much sense as hearing somebody, a music fan born in the second half of the 20th century saying they don't like led zeplin. speaking of which, tom nichols, your new column for "usa today" ...

Back of the hall. >> in the 70s, that distance between the performer on stage and that audience grew. if you went to any of the big arena rock shows, it was always about the star up here and the audience down here and just sort of the rock star as this huge figure. >> it was bound to happen, but it comes as a shock never t nevertheless. in a poll taken in england the beatles came in second. the most popular rock group in england these days is called the led zeplin. a rock group on tour and in the record biz where to be really big is nothing, it's very big. to get around, it uses a

Loved to have seen jimi hendrix. i think everybody says that with the guitar, just an amazing thing. >> i loved him in led zeplin. kidding. jesse. >> trying to think. i've seen everybody, snoop dogg, floyd, i've never seen u2. they have a great song called juan. >> that was a good joke about juan. >> lisa. >> well you are going to boo me. i missed the taylor swift concert in d.s. and i heard it was a great concert. i knew you were going to judge me for it. >> kennedy, i left you for last. you've seen everybody pretty much. who have you not seen you wish could you see. >> the only person would ...

I think everybody says that with the guitar, just an amazing thing. >> i loved him in led zeplin. kidding. jesse. >> trying to think. i've seen everybody, snoop dogg, floyd, i've never seen u2. they have a great song called juan. >> that was a good joke about juan. >> lisa. >> well you are going to boo me. i missed the taylor swift concert in d.s. and i heard it was a great concert. i knew you were going to judge me for it. >> kennedy, i left you for last. you've seen everybody pretty much. who have you not seen you wish could you see. >> the only person would i have liked to have seen in conc...