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Economically, correct? >> it does in some respects except people being covered. look, one of the pieces of information that premiums are up for businesses but no evidence that that's tied actually to the health care. >> bill: it doesn't really matter. it matters where you want to do business. do you want to do business in massachusetts or new hampshire which has much lower business costs. >> we don't know if every days the numbers are tied to health care premiums gone up more had there been romney care. >> bill: you have to evaluate any plan romney care on basically what you are looking at on ...

Being patient and really investing and building a system of people and equipment that is flexible. they were able to in some cases increase productivity by four times. >> reporter: general electric says its adoption of lean techniques enabled the country to shave four labor hours, $50 off refer efridge rater it uses. a feat recognized by biden to a lean g.e. dishwasher plant, louisville appliance park. >> a country that doesn't innovate stagnates. >> reporter: but they warn there are good and bad ways to attain lean with a bad way on slashing payrolls to squeeze more out of remaining workers. ...