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Back of a pickup truck, let alone in a climate-controlled storage. it turns out, you can tell it from the way they took it down, it was made of toothpaste, it crumbled and fell apart as soon as they toppled it. so, now, it's gone. and you know, if you don't believe me this is still a sensitive subject for some people, look at what happened elsewhere in tennessee in the past few weeks. it was back in 2017, that another statue, actually a proper statue of the same ku klux klan grand wizard, another statue of nathan bedford forrest. forrest park, with two "r"s, named for nathan bedford forrest. t...

You don't appeal depends on what the actual judgment amount is. and i don't know. maybe a life of bankruptcy. >> do you have money? >> i don't have much money personally but i'll be okay. i'm not scared. they can do whatever they want. it's not going to change my life or my lifestyle, so yeah. >> so this is never looked up. >> this started it all. the lee statue. the mayhem. this is what wreaked havoc in charlottesville. the robert e. lee statue. >> the notorious statue hoisted away why the end of a long and bloody battle for a city grappling with how to tell the nation's story. >> i'm glad he...

Now. caroline randall williams is a writer in residence of vanderbilt university and is president of thesouthern equity collective. jelani cobb is a staff writer at "the new yorker." following the insurrection you wrote a relevant piece entitled "georgia, trump's insurrectionists, and lost causes" and they both join me now. jelani, let me start with you. i thought of that piece as i was writing the monologue about the continuity and your feelings today watching that lee statue come down and what it means in this moment. >> you know, it's tremendous. one thing that i've always felt about the re...

Lee and stonewall jackson were trucked away, and put into storage. almost-four years ago, white nationalists commandeered the debate over the city's effort to remove the lee statue. their so-called unite-the-right rally turned violent and deadly, as neo-nazis fought with counter-protestors. cnn's evan mcmorris-santoro reports from charlottesville. >> reporter: three hours on a saturday morning, charlottesville has wanted for years. a monument to confederate general stonewall jackson on its way to storage. the notorious statue of general robert e. lee, which overlooked the park that held the de...

But there was this moment in charlottesville, c.j., that i thought was really compelling. let's watch that. >> i still wanted just one final shot of the monument's fight spreading to another city. luckily my friend, a photographer you've met a few times, was on his way to such a place. so i joined him on a road trip to a rally uniting the defenders of another lee statue. >> who, who, who, who, who, who. >> we're terrified. >> c.j., it was that moment. you could see it in your face hearing the chants. i didn't know this would be part of the documentary. but seeing charlottesville from another a...