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Be turned into that black/white, partisan, republican versus democrat. the more you say things like impeachment, john boehner saying he wants to see people behind bars. the more it turns into that, that very familiar thing that we know happens in washington, left versus right. and that's when you lose in some ways the potency of the issue. >> you know, if i were on their side, i'd focus on an issue that matters to people. the irs. >> yeah. >> this benghazi thing seems off the charts for most people and they don't care about the press. first amendment is for us to fight for. no, it's really -- ...

Don't turn it into a purely political matter. that is, if you're a republican, you think the administration's hiding something. if you're a democrat, you think nothing's wrong. that the irs, in particular, is an issue that does not have to be turned into that black/white, partisan, republican versus democrat. the more you say things like impeachment, john boehner saying he wants to see people behind bars. the more it turns into that, that very familiar thing that we know happens in washington, left versus right. and that's when you lose in some ways the potency of the issue. >> you know, if i ...

Partisan, republican versus democrat. the more you say things like impeachment, john boehner saying he wants to see people behind bars. the more it turns into that, that very familiar thing that we know happens in washington, left versus right. and that's when you lose in some ways the potency of the issue. >> you know, if i were on their side, i'd focus on an issue that matters to people. the irs. >> yeah. >> this benghazi thing seems off the charts for most people and they don't care about the press. first amendment is for us to fight for. no, it's really -- >> it's true. the media cares the...