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>> whatever they are doing, they are doing a great job. it's a nice thing to have ib -- incentive that after period of years becoming citizen. >> when president trump issued executive order in 2012 he did not give dreamers a path to citizenship, he simply said they could renew their status in a sense and this is what some conservatives are saying, isn't what you're offering or the president offering isn't it more softer than what it gives dreamers than what president obama was willing to give. >> if we can help to fix this problem once and for all which is the other parts of the proposal the p...

Are doing a great job. it's a nice thing to have ib -- incentive that after period of years becoming citizen. >> when president trump issued executive order in 2012 he did not give dreamers a path to citizenship, he simply said they could renew their status in a sense and this is what some conservatives are saying, isn't what you're offering or the president offering isn't it more softer than what it gives dreamers than what president obama was willing to give. >> if we can help to fix this problem once and for all which is the other parts of the proposal the president has put forth. the secon...

Gibbs of being inept after he suggested the democrats could lose the house this november. that anger is spilling over into this year's liberal blogger convention known as netroots nation. told john fund, i've definitely never heard more cursing by speakers at a political conference. left-winger ed schultz told the audience the white house has a war room, i think they have a sissy room too. with me now is fox news contributor karl rove. thanks for being with us tonight. >> thanks rich for having me. >> rich: carl explain this paradox. all of us on the right think president obama is engaged in t...