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Erekat numbers in 2020. to flip states like georgia blue. that was followed by an attempt to overturn the election. an insurrection. now they are trying to enshrine the insurrection through cool uncle, legal means. that's when the entire 2020 2021 lead to legislative sessions are about. trying to figure out legal ways to disenfranchise voters. because the illegal means failed. and that is the lesson they took from the end of reconstruction. that is how history is repeating itself today. >> this question about the interplay between laws and legitimacy seems important here and something i before...

Monomanical focus on obamacare to the exclusion of everything else. the republicans don't have to have an agenda on everything else. they should be making the case comprehensively against the president's agenda and come up with possible alternatives. >> obamacare is here to stay. as a consecutive commentator, is that your view looking at this? >> no. >> i think the law has had legitimacy problems since the begin. if you get republican control of government in 2017 which is possible, this thing will be repealed. >> mayor? >> that will be very interesting as you know obviously we have a slight d...

Anniversary and costs have come down, some of those costs would have come down in nene case because of the continuing slow recovery. >> a political question. the conventional wisdom is if were a republican, this is a slam-dunk just to foreshadow my coming debate about college sports. this is slam-dunk for you in the midterms. what's the other side of that? where should republicans be cautious about the argument about obamacare in the fall? >> i do think it's a slam-dunk. it motivates the republican base. at the same time it has appeal to the center. anytime you have an issue like that, that's ...

Some republicans over, hold onto the core of democrats and pass a meaningful reform bill. >> the problem for democrats, rich, is what i said to secretary sebelius. the president said. everything has been said we know everything we need to know t. public opposes the reform. that is what they deal with. they have a massive reform bill. they can't pick it apart just yet. what happened? >> they have to try to force it through on partisan muscle. they will come down with the full force of the party and the president on every member and nancy pelosi is going to channel in the battle i don't order yo...

Meaningful reform bill. >> the problem for democrats, rich, is what i said to secretary sebelius. the president said. everything has been said we know everything we need to know t. public opposes the reform. that is what they deal with. they have a massive reform bill. they can't pick it apart just yet. what happened? >> they have to try to force it through on partisan muscle. they will come down with the full force of the party and the president on every member and nancy pelosi is going to channel in the battle i don't order you to attack, i order you to die. and democrats seem to think if th...