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And i don't see how doing it again would be any different. i'm completely opposed to it because i think there's a number of ways that we can -- a number of methods that we can employ in order to bail ourselves out and take financial accountability besides that. >> david? >> really quickly -- but really quickly, here's the problem. and i'm sorry, david. really quickly, here's the problem. you've got to deal with $100 billion in either cuts or tax increases if you don't raise the debt ceiling. this is something -- i mean, this is real here. so okay, so you're going to cut -- you're going to make...

Spending more and more and to continue to add to our deficit. and i don't see how doing it again would be any different. i'm completely opposed to it because i think there's a number of ways that we can -- a number of methods that we can employ in order to bail ourselves out and take financial accountability besides that. >> david? >> really quickly -- but really quickly, but here's the problem. and i'm sorry, david. but really quickly, here's the problem. you've got to deal with $100 billion in either cuts or tax increases if you don't raise the debt ceiling. this is something -- i mean, this...

It would be apocalyptic. but others have not so much. i look at precedents. we have raised the debt ceiling 74 times since 1962. and in 10 of those incidents occurred in just the last decade. now, every single one of those times we have raised the debt ceiling we have never taken the initiative to actually reduce our spending. it just is an excuse to keep spending more and more and to continue to add to our deficit. and i don't see how doing it again would be any different. i'm completely opposed to it because i think there's a number of ways that we can -- a number of methods that we can empl...

74 times since 1962. and in 10 of those incidents occurred in just the last decade. now, every single one of those times we have raised the debt ceiling we have never taken the initiative to actually reduce our spending. it just is an excuse to keep spending more and more and to continue 20 add to our deficit. and i don't see how doing it again would be any different. i'm completely opposed to it because i think there's a number of ways that we can -- a number of methods that we can employ in order to bail ourselves out and take financial accountability besides that. >> david? >> really quickl...