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Committee, is the delivery system a mask, is it a suit, a chamber, a tent, what is it? if smnl is thrashing around, it might be hard to keep that mask on their face. it could be a long-time struggle. we'll see. >> it's law now in oklahoma. if their lethal injection protocol is struck down next week, this is what they're going for instead, somehow. and maybe there are lethal injection protocols might not work now anyway because they can't get the drugs. in which case, oklahoma law now says this nitrogen thing is what they'll do instead. firing squads, hanging, electric chair, gas chamber, letha...

Kill people. they announced this new policy "to prevent the use of our products in capital punishment, akorn will not sell any product to any prison or correctional institution and we will restrict the sale of lethal injection protocols to use their best efforts to keep them out of correctional institutions." that was surprising for us. we asked akorn last year and they didn't have a policy. and they didn't have is any plans to make one. now they do have a policy, and it's a really aggressive one. no sales of our drugs for executions, period. and get this, this is the news here. they are also ...

In january, a drug company called akorn, they told the newspaper in alabama that they too, were taking steps to stop prisons from using their drug to kill people. they announced this new policy "to prevent the use of our products in capital punishment akorn will not sell any product to nip prison or correctional institution and we will restrict the sale of lethal injection protocols to use their best efforts to keep them out of correctional institutions." that was surprisesing for us. we asked akorn last year and they didn't have a policy. no sales of our drugs for executions, period. and get ...

The room. they cannot see who they are drugging at all. if they need problems or have to communicate with the warden or staff in the next room along with the prisoner they are killing through the wall, to communicate with them, "the executioners stick colored pencils through holes in the wall where two iv lines feed into the inmate's body. if you saw red, there might be possible problems" said a deputy warden. but if you stuck the yellow pencil or the black pencil through the wall, then everything's okay. that's the system. and then there's the issue of autopsies. between 2001 and 2010, during...

Which time the state was involved in several lawsuits over their lethal injection protocols, state of oklahoma stopped autopsying the prisoners who they were killing. not one in the whole decade. for more than ten years, during which time the state altered its lethal injection protocol three times, the state of oklahoma has done nothing in terms of physical examination to actually see how it is working or what it is doing in the process of killing people. it's all too secret. joining us now, ziva branstetter for oklahoma's "tulsa world" newspaper. thank you for being with us. >> thanks, rachel...