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We'd call it a mob for sure. let's be serious. >>let me move past the "m" word. i do feel like that is part of the weaponization of what's happening now on the right. at the same time i think you do make an interesting point in a piece of read of yours today that while this whole issue with kavanaugh and ford has been incredibly candivisive in this country, it was unifying among republicans. republicans had a republican problem. you said this is what caused republicans to be one big fuzzy family again. >> yeah. the brett kavanaugh case -- now, there are never trumpers, prominent never trumpers...

Chief washington reporter for the "boston herald." michael. go ahead and get angry if today made you angry, but what does your party need to do now? >> at this point there's not much they can do. let's be serious. the you will this waiting and expectation that republicans are finally going corral this crazy is just overblown. it's overdone at this point. it's not really going happen. it's bake in the right now in many regards. that's the problem. i think what senator mccain said

Today's press conference in he will sibky cause one of the most disgraceful performances by an american president in memory. the damage inflict bid president trump's knife stay egotism and hard to measure. >> host of the best-name podcast on the market, man of teal and kimberly at kins is with us, chief washington reporter for the "boston herald." michael. go ahead and get angry if today made you angry, but what does your party need to do now? >> at this point there's not much they can do. let's be serious. the you will this waiting and expectation that republicans are finally going corral thi...

The "boston herald." michael. go ahead and get angry if today made you angry, but what does your party need to do now? >> at this point there's not much they can do. let's be serious. the you will this waiting and expectation that republicans are finally going corral this crazy is just overblown. it's overdone at this point. it's not really going happen. it's bake in the right now in many regards. that's the problem. i think what senator mccain said is very, very accurate. it's hard to calculate at this point the damage that's being done and what steps can be done the correct it. the president...

You are seeing a lot the same with the democrats. that's potentially a problem heading into the midterms where they need as much unity as they can get. >> to that point, as both parties -- at least the fringes of both parties become more vocal, where do moderates from either party go? >> look, i think that's a real problem that you are going to see republicans grappled with it in 2016. you will see democrats grapple with it in 2018. to be frank -- let's be serious here. the democratic calls to abolish ice are akin to republicans calling to abolish the department of education or other departmen...