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Delaware and nevada and colorado a nominee who doesn't appeal to the middle. in is all good news for president obama. >> chris: anybody out there like a christie or ryan or bush who could scare you? >> i have a fondness for former governors but he has only been there two two years and has continued budget wars going on. >> chris: the same thing could be said about barack obama. >> one of your guests earlier today, minority leader mcconnell distancing himself although he is personally going to support the ryan budget. so there is not a lot of there there. they are good people. this is a referen...

Changes to both medicare and medicaid. >> chris: i'm going to get back on to medicare because it is a big issue and hot issue. newt gingrich stepped in it last week. do you u support the idea of turning medicare -- i think you are right, everybody would agree it going to change and there will be cuts hundreds of billions of dollars either way. do you support the ryan concept of turning medicare from a fee or service plan to a voucher plan which, quite frankly, under the congressional budget office analysis, the nonpartisan ceo moons that in the long run seniors end up paying more out of pocket...

Changes to both medicare and medicaid. >> chris: i'm going to get back on to medicare because it is a big issue and hot issue. newt gingrich stepped in it last week. do you u support the idea of turning medicare -- i think you are right, everybody would agree it going to change and there will be cuts hundreds of billions of dollars either way. do you support the ryan concept of turning medicare from a fee or service plan to a voucher plan which, quite frankly, under the congressional budget office analysis, the nonpartisan ceo moons that in the long run seniors end up paying more out of pocket...

Delaware and nevada and colorado a nominee who doesn't appeal to the middle. in is all good news for president obama. >> chris: anybody out there like a christie or ryan or bush who could scare you? >> i have a fondness for former governors but he has only been there two two years and has continued budget wars going on. >> chris: the same thing could be said about barack obama. >> one of your guests earlier today, minority leader mcconnell distancing himself although he is personally going to support the ryan budget. so there is not a lot of there there. they are good people. this is a referen...

We have to have significant changes to both medicare and medicaid. >> chris: i'm going to get back on to medicare because it is a big issue and hot issue. newt gingrich stepped in it last week. do you u support the idea of turning medicare -- i think you are right, everybody would agree it going to change and there will be cuts hundreds of billions of dollars either way. do you support the ryan concept of turning medicare from a fee or service plan to a voucher plan which, quite frankly, under the congressional budget office analysis, the nonpartisan ceo moons that in the long run seniors end ...