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The media in that respect. to be clear, the media has done a lot to discredit itself. it's not without his help over many decades. but this is something entirely different what he does. >> even he's out on the campaign trail saying the democrats are behind this caravan. >> it's not true. no evidence for it. if it is true, in his mind, he should offer the proof. he never does. he just says these things and lays the marker here and leaves everyone fighting over it. in the meantime, he's won because he's gotten his statement out there. >> maggie haberman, thanks very much. fascinating. want to ...

>> yeah, i think the timing is particularly bad. and i just -- i don't understand this idea, steve, that you're putting forward, that this is something that's authentic, that this somehow makes him authentic. it's really unusual behavior for any person to be clapping for somebody who has assaulted anybody, let alone a reporter. this is not -- it's not in dispute what happened. and so he was making it very clear that he supported what happened to this reporter, when in fact he should be condemning it. let's start there, he should have condemned it. but rather than condemning it, he is -- i gues...

Official representative of the united states, the top man in government, and there are people who say, look, this is coming from the government. so, therefore, it must be true and he's done a lot to discredit the media in that respect. to be clear, the media has done a lot to discredit itself. it's not without his help over many decades. but this is something entirely different what he does. >> even he's out on the campaign trail saying the democrats are behind this caravan. >> it's not true. no evidence for it. if it is true, in his mind, he should offer the proof. he never does. he just says...

Those images and see people first of all who are scared, who are desperate, and who need some help and assistance, whether they get it inside the u.s. border or outside the u.s. border. my heart breaks to imagine being stuck on a bridge for hours with my kid. other people look at that and say, we're scared of those people, we don't want them here. we are trying to sort out as a country, are we welcoming, are we empathetic, do we care about people, or are we going to say we're closed for business as america and we're scared of folks. i don't know how this is going to play in the midterms. >> pa...

She's seeking asylum from a dangerous place. others are trying to find a better life for themselves and their kids. but all of them, i've never seen anything like it, like people running from a burning people. turning back, it wasn't happening. what you missed there was there was tear gas, they had literally forced the gates open at one point but the federales forced them back, four officers according to secretary of state mike pompeo were injured. then, in a surreal sense, the crowd completely calmed down and realized this is just one step on this journey. they walked across guatemala from ho...