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This is a difficult, difficult challenge. make no mistake about it, there remains a great deal of work to do. and we made progress here as well as at the same time made progress in the other venues the conversations were taking place. we had all the time we needed today to make the progress that was achievable during our time here in new york city. >> our next question goes to michael borden from "the wall street journal." >> reporter: sir, following up on that, senior state department officials, the same person who spoke to us last night, also indicated that the united states hopes to persuad...

Handle the russia issue. and ben rhodes' book kind of gives us a little more of a glimpse on the thinking on that. it also is a reminder, having covered obama, and peter knows this too, is how much he would take an issue and wrestle with it and argue every side of it, and really think about it, and then sometimes, you know, come out not really wanting to do -- or deciding not to do much of anything. and this was another instance in which we see president obama weighing all of the different options and ultimately deciding that politically, because he was so inserted in the 2016 campaign, and ve...

Gets in his way, he just imposed tariffs on our allies, peter. >> he did in fact seem to project what the argument would be as soon as president trump took office. what are these institutions going to do in the face of a president who takes a different view of them than other presidents have, republican and democrat. and i think that, you know, president obama saw it coming. one of the other things that's interesting, we have heard so little from president obama since he left office. he told reporters in his last press conference that he would speak out on issues that were important to him, fo...

James comey. let's play it, hopefully we'll get through it. >> regardless of recommendation, i was going to fire comey. knowing there was no good time to do it. and in fact, when i decided to just do it, i said to myself, i said, you know, this russia thin thing with trump and russia was a made-up stories. >> he fired comey because comey would not, among other things, say that he wasn't a target of the investigation. he's entitled to that. >> that's donald trump and rudy giuliani, contradicting themselves. joyce, when you're a prosecutor and you look at those two things, what do you think? >> ...

>> it's a loud elephant whistle. you know, the timing is remarkable. it comes just a day after there were even more revelations in michael cohen's case. it seems clear that the government is amassing a significant amount of evidence against cohen. and lo and behold, we have today the pardon of dinesh d'souza, pardon for campaign finance violations, one of the same crimes michael cohen is being investigated for, and one of the most important things about this pardon is that it didn't go through the normal doj pardon process. while that's not constitutionally required, it's a way that doj and th...