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1:30, 1:35 in the afternoon. continues on his way. at some point pulled over. and realizes it was he he was shot at there were bullet holes in the camper. he calls 911 a second time where law enforcement converged on the area which resulted in the shooting and a subsequent manhunt for mr. sweat, which i'm sure will come. darkness like you just mentioned, darkness is against law enforcement on this. but they still have a little light left now and they will contain that area. and i'm sure they're going to have -- >> we think about like the inevitability here of getting this guy whether it's dead...

Actually took place they surfaced enough for law enforcement to find out they were in the area convince themselves there were not one but two of them. and when the confrontation took place obviously there was one individual killed. and i guess one more point. what's so important for law enforcement, hopefully, that they would have the chance to take david sweat alive unless he forces them to shoot him is there's a whole other part of this investigation. who helped them make the plan who provided tools, who provided access to the prison? there's an entirely stand-alone investigation. it doesn't...

>> jonathan gilliam on set with us here in new york. so we know apparently they were staying together for all of this time. do you think -- did they help their chances of sort of eluding capture by staying together or if they had just had at some point, let's split up you go this way, i go that way, let's try to fend for ourselves here would that have helped them more? >> i think it probably helped them to stay together. i'll tell you why. if they had split up and started to move the chances of one of them getting caught before they got that far away from the other one, that would have alluded...

Back. if they approach him and he shows them that he has a weapon they don't have to wait for him to pull that weapon up and aim it. he at that point is an imminent threat based on his past track record and based on what's in his hands. the main thing these officers are looking at they're looking for him and they're looking at hands. that's exactly what they're looking for. one of the most interesting things about this this just shows you the day and age that we live cameras in the woods are one of the things that helped catch these two individuals. i mean that's fascinating when you think abo...

Pressed her the way she did. it's a dicey move because when hillary becomes candidate and the presumptive candidate that can come back and hurt you. but diane pressed her. she got her to say bit end of the year. that's early. right, brianna, if she says end of the year, she'll probably be first then? >> well, chris, let's split what she said. she said she'll be well on her way by the end of the year. >> what does that mean, by the way? >> that's exactly -- the box that she's gotten herself into, she said, i will basically be deciding the end of this year. there is going to be a lot of pressure...