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If it comes to it, it's going to happen. i'm hopeful that we will -- folks will back up a little bit just like with this recent debt ceiling vote. i think, basically, business is going to have to come forward like with regard to the debt ceiling and say look, you can't do this. you are going to wreck the economy of the united states and wreck the economy of the world. i'm hoping that we won't get there. but, alex, i have to tell you, it would not shock me if we do. >> okay. let's switch gears. on the heels of the senate confirmation hearing for chuck hagel, has the political climate changed wi...

We do everything between the borders. border patrol takes care of the land borders, but throughout this it's apples and oranges. we view the president's comments. we looked at the bipartisan committee's plan and strangely enough we noticed that customs enforcement and immigration is not mentioned by the president or in the bipartisan plan. the group that is supposed to enforce everything within the borders. we're a little bit shocked. every year a handful of i.c.e. agents is arresting approximately 400,000 illegal aliens and taking them primarily from jails and prisons. so, we know we have a s...

The senate's fiscal cliff deal puts the kabash on the pay raises, but has yet to pass the house. get ready to say good-bye to gangam style. ♪ the only reason i want to keep it around is because dave just did that dance. that was unbelievable. this dude, korean singer says he's retiring the song at the start of the new year so he can focus on his next big hit. lord help us all. steve? >> steve: let's switch gears. the new year is bringing if a new job for our next guest and an impresssive one to say the least. after nearly 25 years, of military service, he's about to receive the highest enl...

Should be second in consideration. >> yeah, let's switch gears. i want to ask you about the benghazi hearing. what did we learn from the hearing on thursday? does it settle the debate? >> no, i don't think it will completely settle the debate. in the military, i learn to respect what you inspect. this is the third time we've done this in the last decade after embassies or consulates have been overrun. another step to improve. the state department mismanaged it, and where the rubber met the road with the assistant secretary and below. i think accountable is tough, but needed. secondly it points...

Root against very positive information about the economy, or come up with some new thing. and that's exactly what the tweets are doing. >> let's switch gears. perry, i want to talk to you about green jobs. mitt romney brought it up during the debate. and then again last night. here is what he said. let's listen to that. >> i got a chance to ask him why it was with the deficit so severe and such a threat to our future that the president would $90 billion on so-called green energy jobs. anybody here have one of those? i keep looking. >> the president -- >> i guess -- >> the president didn't have...