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I thought his initial statement was very good. and he really needs to talk about the importance of a strong response. gutierrez, the congressman you had on who said we want to use dip -- diplomacy. without the threat of force is like music without instruments. >> bill: if you were advising, let's take president obama first, obviously the egyptian government on 9/11 of all days spitting in the eye of the american public, obviously. could have stopped this, you know how they are. the egyptian military in cairo could have stopped that so what would you tell the president to do? >> suspend all mil...

After he speaks. >> first of all, mr. president, with all due respect, your calculation on what the impact would do, quite honestly, is incorrect. let's take, forexample, the fact that after i went through my calculations, your calculation or your example of the 6% or the 7.9, and in my case it works out to 7.9 case, now let's suppose that 30% of my costs are labor costs, 7.9 times that would be the 2 to 2.5% you are referring to. the problem with that calculation, sir, is the fact that those -- most of those 30% of the people currently have zero. so when i calculate in the fact that i have to...

Should he do? 59% say start over. let me ask you, when we send people to congress, do we ask them to vote their conscience or ours? is there a point in which the numbers are so skewed they need to vote the people's way? >> that's the great question since burke. he thought you should represent your on or conception of what the national need is. i don't think there is an answer. if i think if you are president obama, you came in and promised health care reform. now for political reasons your entire presidency hinges on coming back with something. if he comes back with nothing, i think he's wound...

Should he do? 59% say start over. let me ask you, when we send people to congress, do we ask them to vote their conscience or ours? is there a point in which the numbers are so skewed they need to vote the people's way? >> that's the great question since burke. he thought you should represent your on or conception of what the national need is. i don't think there is an answer. if i think if you are president obama, you came in and promised health care reform. now for political reasons your entire presidency hinges on coming back with something. if he comes back with nothing, i think he's wound...

Know, people are happy, they see their neighbors, they bring their kids, they bring their families, and they're excited about attending. they're excited about seeing the president, and for them, it's s aspirational because they feel they are a part of something bigger than themselves. >> that's the divide in america today between the folks who aend itted the rally and the folks who let's take president trump say in the maxine waters he said she has a low iq, april ryan, a lot of other americans hear that and think it's racist. what was your reaction to the rally, april? >> well, i felt watchin...