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To obstruct justice is still a crime. >> that's correct. >> and mr. lewandowski tried to meet with the attorney general, is that correct? >> true. >> and he tried to meet with them in his office so he would be certain there wasn't a public log of the visit. >> according to our report. >> and the president raised the issue again with mr. lewandowski and he said, i quote, if sessions does not meet with you, lewandowski should tell sessions he was fired. correct? >> correct. >> so immediately following the meeting with the president, lewandowski then asked mr. dearborn to deliver the message, the...

Evidence the president knew he should not have directed don mcgahn to fire the special counsel, correct? >> and where do you have that quote? >> page 90, volume 2. there is evidence that the president knew he should not have made those calls to mcgahn, close quote. >> yes, that's accurate. >> the investigation found substantial evidence that president trump repeatedly urged mcgahn to dispute he was ordered to have the special counsel terminated, correct? >> correct. >> invest found substantial evidence that when the president ordered don mcgahn to fire the special counsel and then lie about it...

Investigation beginning at page 90. curtail you mean limit, right? my colleagues walked through how the president tried to have you fired and because mr. mcgahn refused the order the president asked others to limit your investigation. was corey lewandowski one such individual? he is the president's former campaign manager, correct? >> correct. >> did he have any official position in the trump administration? >> i don't believe so. >> your report describes an incident involving him june 19, 2017, volume 2, page 91. >> what's the citation? >> page 91. >> of the second volume? >> yes. meeting in ...