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You saw that event in berkley over the weekend. berkley, you can always count on them for profreedom, pro liberty stuff. >> so we thought. a couple things here. on the enemy of the people, i don't make it personal, i never have but on the issues, the enemy of the people, that's not what trump was saying. what he was talking about with the fake news people. i want to be clear on this. if the fake news people want to stop being insulted and they want to stop the cnn sucks stuff, it's very simple. this isn't difficult. but secondly, chris mentioned -- you having a profile and you being able to ea...

He's very liberal, he would not provide free apple products for the republican convention because of his concerns with donald trump and just the usual liberty stuff coming from co's who disregard 62 million strong trump voters and i think they're making a big mistake because if we can mobilize every one of our trump voters, we could put massive pressure on companies like apple. sandra: can i challenge that for a second because -- >> sure. sandra: he has an obligation to shareholders, this is a major publicly traded company and his first obligation is to those shareholders and to provide the bi...